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	<title>Comments on: The Wind Car (4 of 6) &#8211; Time for a name</title>
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		<title>By: cathy</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-9157</link>
		<dc:creator>cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>retro-fitting electric motors is a great idea.. what do you think?</description>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-9025</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the macho American in me likes the decided upon name of &quot;Nemesis&quot;. It has a down with the man kinda vibe.</description>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-9024</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is late but Clark is right. Zero is the name of an electric motorcycle here in the US and if it is already attached to a car, as GreenMotor, pointed out then it just wouldn&#039;t be right. 

I do like Dan R&#039;s suggestion of &quot;Viento&quot;. Throwing my two cents into the mix (if its even worth that) to appease Damon what about the name &quot;Whisper&quot;? Its probably too feminine but the Cherokee in me likes it because I like to think that the wind whispers to us (if only we would stop and listen more often).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is late but Clark is right. Zero is the name of an electric motorcycle here in the US and if it is already attached to a car, as GreenMotor, pointed out then it just wouldn&#8217;t be right. </p>
<p>I do like Dan R&#8217;s suggestion of &#8220;Viento&#8221;. Throwing my two cents into the mix (if its even worth that) to appease Damon what about the name &#8220;Whisper&#8221;? Its probably too feminine but the Cherokee in me likes it because I like to think that the wind whispers to us (if only we would stop and listen more often).</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Weaver</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-8895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about &quot;Zee&quot;? or oven Ee-zee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#8220;Zee&#8221;? or oven Ee-zee?</p>
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		<title>By: L. Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>L. Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>repost:

&quot;Davince&quot;

Pronounce it any way you wish!

Les</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>repost:</p>
<p>&#8220;Davince&#8221;</p>
<p>Pronounce it any way you wish!</p>
<p>Les</p>
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		<title>By: L. Warren</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-6581</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale... love the whole idea... also love your politics.

My choice for your beauty:

&quot;Wattson&quot; for all sorts of reasons.

Paul Watson (my hero)
Unit of power
&quot;Elementary, Watson&quot;
Son of Watt as in Williamson, Johnson, evolving from..

Would love to get involved... keep up the good work...

Les</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale&#8230; love the whole idea&#8230; also love your politics.</p>
<p>My choice for your beauty:</p>
<p>&#8220;Wattson&#8221; for all sorts of reasons.</p>
<p>Paul Watson (my hero)<br />
Unit of power<br />
&#8220;Elementary, Watson&#8221;<br />
Son of Watt as in Williamson, Johnson, evolving from..</p>
<p>Would love to get involved&#8230; keep up the good work&#8230;</p>
<p>Les</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Holt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny Holt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Product naming and branding, particularly in the Car business&lt; is a process complicated by the inconvenient fact that use of particular words or acronyms is often limited by other people who thought of using it first and who have a commercial interest in protecting what is now part of their intellectual property. Also, words sometimes do not translate well into other languages (Rover wanted to call one of their cars &quot;Macro&quot; until it was pointed out that &quot;Macareau&quot; is French for &quot;male prostitute&quot;).

Having said all this, my suggestions are:
 
&quot;Vertigo&quot; (the sensation you get from a wind turbine / French for green, then &quot;I go&quot;).

&quot;Natrix&quot; (Latin name for a grass snake, which is green. There is a long tradition of naming sports cars after snakes - cf. AC Cobra, Dodge Viper, etc).

Hope this helps,

Jonny Holt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Product naming and branding, particularly in the Car business&lt; is a process complicated by the inconvenient fact that use of particular words or acronyms is often limited by other people who thought of using it first and who have a commercial interest in protecting what is now part of their intellectual property. Also, words sometimes do not translate well into other languages (Rover wanted to call one of their cars &#8220;Macro&#8221; until it was pointed out that &#8220;Macareau&#8221; is French for &#8220;male prostitute&#8221;).</p>
<p>Having said all this, my suggestions are:</p>
<p>&#8220;Vertigo&#8221; (the sensation you get from a wind turbine / French for green, then &#8220;I go&#8221;).</p>
<p>&#8220;Natrix&#8221; (Latin name for a grass snake, which is green. There is a long tradition of naming sports cars after snakes &#8211; cf. AC Cobra, Dodge Viper, etc).</p>
<p>Hope this helps,</p>
<p>Jonny Holt</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Lam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except the two acronyms are supposed to be different words, not like my example!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except the two acronyms are supposed to be different words, not like my example!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Lam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a more serious note, I like leo&#039;s suggestions. How about spelling something that sounds like letters when read out?

e.g. &#039;z e d c e e&#039;, &#039;e l v e e&#039;, &#039;e l c e e&#039;

Quite clever eh? It becomes a double-acronym. The only thing is thinking of something: Electric Vehicle by Ecotricity is then &#039;e v e&#039; (pronounced &#039;ee-vee&#039;), EV also standing for Electric Vehicle. That&#039;s the best I can do at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a more serious note, I like leo&#8217;s suggestions. How about spelling something that sounds like letters when read out?</p>
<p>e.g. &#8216;z e d c e e&#8217;, &#8216;e l v e e&#8217;, &#8216;e l c e e&#8217;</p>
<p>Quite clever eh? It becomes a double-acronym. The only thing is thinking of something: Electric Vehicle by Ecotricity is then &#8216;e v e&#8217; (pronounced &#8216;ee-vee&#8217;), EV also standing for Electric Vehicle. That&#8217;s the best I can do at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Lam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got some more ideas!
ufo
flying cow
ball lighting/lightning/lightening
(missing) blade
tentacle
lights</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got some more ideas!<br />
ufo<br />
flying cow<br />
ball lighting/lightning/lightening<br />
(missing) blade<br />
tentacle<br />
lights</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi dale..i thought about an acronym. what about taking a few tags, e.g: Ecotricity, Dale, Windpowered, Car, Lotus-based, Electric, Sport, Vehicle, etc..
and then play around a bit (bit like those word games in the Times)..u get words like &#039;e l e v&#039;,  &#039;e l e c&#039;, &#039;d w e l&#039; etc...i m sure there are many more creative people than me better at this...
leo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi dale..i thought about an acronym. what about taking a few tags, e.g: Ecotricity, Dale, Windpowered, Car, Lotus-based, Electric, Sport, Vehicle, etc..<br />
and then play around a bit (bit like those word games in the Times)..u get words like &#8216;e l e v&#8217;,  &#8216;e l e c&#8217;, &#8216;d w e l&#8217; etc&#8230;i m sure there are many more creative people than me better at this&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: GreenMotor</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenMotor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t the name Zero has already been bagged by another fledgling electric car, the Tazzari Zero?
http://www.tazzari-zero.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t the name Zero has already been bagged by another fledgling electric car, the Tazzari Zero?<br />
<a href="http://www.tazzari-zero.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tazzari-zero.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: yanza</title>
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		<dc:creator>yanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale

The wind car vids look great, can&#039;t wait to see the one with it on the road, is it on YouTube yet?

As for the name, how about a funky zero 
 inspired word for which the web address is not already taken, e.g. zerotricity

yanza.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale</p>
<p>The wind car vids look great, can&#8217;t wait to see the one with it on the road, is it on YouTube yet?</p>
<p>As for the name, how about a funky zero<br />
 inspired word for which the web address is not already taken, e.g. zerotricity</p>
<p>yanza.com</p>
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		<title>By: Damon Hart-Davis</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-3034</link>
		<dc:creator>Damon Hart-Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, here&#039;s another EV conversion project that pays for itself:

http://www.fieldlines.com/comments/2009/1/14/144558/363/3#3

Rgds

Damon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, here&#8217;s another EV conversion project that pays for itself:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fieldlines.com/comments/2009/1/14/144558/363/3#3" rel="nofollow">http://www.fieldlines.com/comments/2009/1/14/144558/363/3#3</a></p>
<p>Rgds</p>
<p>Damon</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra Deegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra Deegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale seems have departed this thread... abducted by aliens? But I digress....

The fambly, macho, SUV truck market is being cracked by these guys in the US....

http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/index.php

I personally had great hopes for this 3-wheeler and would have purchased one myself if it could be made real for the UK market... with say a top speed of 125mph and a 300 mile range... and less naff colours, dated wheels and a sorta geek kit feel... say more like the Smart EV’s will be. The perfect EV for the city, green-minded uber-babe...(sniggers)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsg_iEQzfWk&amp;feature=related

And (Phil — January 11, 2009 @ 12:50 am)

I suggest you take a looksee at the wonderful Mr. Ebenhoech converted 914...

http://www.cafeelectric.com/index.php

This could be the way ahead for millions of cash starved, depression surviving energy depleted Brits... come 2013 when the lights start going out.... that will be the smart ones only naturally... that have converted their homes to heat producing net energy ones, selling back to the National Grid... who’ll have quit all mainstream rip-off foreign goct controlled utilities...

Only the seriously silly will imagine a ‘normal’ consumerist, flat screen plasma future... albeit defo not if held to ransome for water, heat and daily working energy!

(Get self-sufficient folks you know it makes purfecct ‘meow’ sense)...

Postscript: Or perhaps Gordon McBruin will finally wake up to the Peak-Oil issue and make these on-your-every-street-corner govt mandate? 

http://dvice.com/archives/2008/11/hyperion_starts.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale seems have departed this thread&#8230; abducted by aliens? But I digress&#8230;.</p>
<p>The fambly, macho, SUV truck market is being cracked by these guys in the US&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/index.php</a></p>
<p>I personally had great hopes for this 3-wheeler and would have purchased one myself if it could be made real for the UK market&#8230; with say a top speed of 125mph and a 300 mile range&#8230; and less naff colours, dated wheels and a sorta geek kit feel&#8230; say more like the Smart EV’s will be. The perfect EV for the city, green-minded uber-babe&#8230;(sniggers)</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsg_iEQzfWk&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsg_iEQzfWk&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>And (Phil — January 11, 2009 @ 12:50 am)</p>
<p>I suggest you take a looksee at the wonderful Mr. Ebenhoech converted 914&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cafeelectric.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.cafeelectric.com/index.php</a></p>
<p>This could be the way ahead for millions of cash starved, depression surviving energy depleted Brits&#8230; come 2013 when the lights start going out&#8230;. that will be the smart ones only naturally&#8230; that have converted their homes to heat producing net energy ones, selling back to the National Grid&#8230; who’ll have quit all mainstream rip-off foreign goct controlled utilities&#8230;</p>
<p>Only the seriously silly will imagine a ‘normal’ consumerist, flat screen plasma future&#8230; albeit defo not if held to ransome for water, heat and daily working energy!</p>
<p>(Get self-sufficient folks you know it makes purfecct ‘meow’ sense)&#8230;</p>
<p>Postscript: Or perhaps Gordon McBruin will finally wake up to the Peak-Oil issue and make these on-your-every-street-corner govt mandate? </p>
<p><a href="http://dvice.com/archives/2008/11/hyperion_starts.php" rel="nofollow">http://dvice.com/archives/2008/11/hyperion_starts.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great project - but I would have been much more impressed if you had developed a 4 or 5 seater family hatchback! Tesla etc prove the EV sportscar concept - I&#039;m sure it will be great fun to drive, but it&#039;s hardly pushing the boundaries is it?  You could even take the &quot;economy&quot; option and buy a Prius, rip out the internals and make it into a state of the art EV - now THAT would get peoples attention and really embarass the big manufacturers - and you&#039;d have a queue of people wanting to buy one as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great project &#8211; but I would have been much more impressed if you had developed a 4 or 5 seater family hatchback! Tesla etc prove the EV sportscar concept &#8211; I&#8217;m sure it will be great fun to drive, but it&#8217;s hardly pushing the boundaries is it?  You could even take the &#8220;economy&#8221; option and buy a Prius, rip out the internals and make it into a state of the art EV &#8211; now THAT would get peoples attention and really embarass the big manufacturers &#8211; and you&#8217;d have a queue of people wanting to buy one as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lister used to produce a car called the Storm, so don&#039;t know if there would be any issues on that front? 

Regarding the car itself, it all looks very interesting, but I&#039;m left with a nagging doubt. Given the millions of cars that already exist, wouldn&#039;t it be more efficient to develop some sort of aftermarket process for retro-fitting electric motors to our current fleet? The wind car is undoubtedly a useful headline grabber, but shouldn&#039;t we be thinking about ways to shift the current fleet over to cleaner, more efficient methods of propulsion rather than just binning them altogether? Why are we not seeing such a sector emerging, as to my mind it would seem to make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lister used to produce a car called the Storm, so don&#8217;t know if there would be any issues on that front? </p>
<p>Regarding the car itself, it all looks very interesting, but I&#8217;m left with a nagging doubt. Given the millions of cars that already exist, wouldn&#8217;t it be more efficient to develop some sort of aftermarket process for retro-fitting electric motors to our current fleet? The wind car is undoubtedly a useful headline grabber, but shouldn&#8217;t we be thinking about ways to shift the current fleet over to cleaner, more efficient methods of propulsion rather than just binning them altogether? Why are we not seeing such a sector emerging, as to my mind it would seem to make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adi - I agree that lifecycle analysis of all these options (H2, EV, Biomass, plug ins etc etc) is really important. Actually, I have been having this whole discussion (EV vs H2) with some colleagues too and I think as a result we&#039;re going to try and write a paper on the subject.. it seems a good time for one! I&#039;ll let you know (it will probably take a good few months) - Email me your email address on d.howey@imperial.ac.uk

Dave

ps battery technology is advancing ridiculously fast at the moment, see http://www.a123systems.com/ and http://www.altairnano.com
I fully expect that batteries will have decent lifetimes and safety in the next 5 years or so. However, we do need to worry about lithium supply, and also battery end of life recycling.

pps on names for the car (sorry, should have contributed earlier) how about Spark, Arc, Flux - that sort of thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adi &#8211; I agree that lifecycle analysis of all these options (H2, EV, Biomass, plug ins etc etc) is really important. Actually, I have been having this whole discussion (EV vs H2) with some colleagues too and I think as a result we&#8217;re going to try and write a paper on the subject.. it seems a good time for one! I&#8217;ll let you know (it will probably take a good few months) &#8211; Email me your email address on <a href="mailto:d.howey@imperial.ac.uk">d.howey@imperial.ac.uk</a></p>
<p>Dave</p>
<p>ps battery technology is advancing ridiculously fast at the moment, see <a href="http://www.a123systems.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.a123systems.com/</a> and <a href="http://www.altairnano.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.altairnano.com</a><br />
I fully expect that batteries will have decent lifetimes and safety in the next 5 years or so. However, we do need to worry about lithium supply, and also battery end of life recycling.</p>
<p>pps on names for the car (sorry, should have contributed earlier) how about Spark, Arc, Flux &#8211; that sort of thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Adi</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-2901</link>
		<dc:creator>Adi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

Answer to your feedback about hydrogen vs. EVs:

The hydrogen fuelling station I saw in Rekyavik a few years back looks great and could be duplicated around the world with potentially less environmental impact than the environmental cost of duplicating long range batteries on a global scale. 

I have no doubt that currently the use EVs are cheaper/more accessible etc than hydrogen but if one projects EVs en mass (i.e. we all use them instead of ICEs) we could have a resource problem with the battery manufacturing side which may outweigh the other obstacles which the hydrogen economy brings. This is of course based on the future scenario of Renewable energy powering the hydrogen extraction.

Ref your question about transporting hydrogen: Hydrogen like biomass is a more storable and flexible as a fuel compared to other renewables of variable supply. (Hydrogen is therefore similar to a battery in concept - but batteries always expire whether used or not - Ive had 2 electric vehicles now so speak from a position of experience).    

So hydrogen faciltates a storage solution which enables our demand to be matched with intermiitant renewable energy supply in a way which could be less damaging than batteries - if scaled up. 

Dave I dont know if that is the case for sure because Ive not done the maths on the lifecycle impact of mining the specialist battery resources that would be required but what I&#039;m trying to impress upon you is to not close your mind to the hydrogen solution. If you know of a study which details the CO2cost of long range batteries I&#039;d be interested. A good independent survey may swing my thinking back towards yours. 
 
Regards
 Adrian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>Answer to your feedback about hydrogen vs. EVs:</p>
<p>The hydrogen fuelling station I saw in Rekyavik a few years back looks great and could be duplicated around the world with potentially less environmental impact than the environmental cost of duplicating long range batteries on a global scale. </p>
<p>I have no doubt that currently the use EVs are cheaper/more accessible etc than hydrogen but if one projects EVs en mass (i.e. we all use them instead of ICEs) we could have a resource problem with the battery manufacturing side which may outweigh the other obstacles which the hydrogen economy brings. This is of course based on the future scenario of Renewable energy powering the hydrogen extraction.</p>
<p>Ref your question about transporting hydrogen: Hydrogen like biomass is a more storable and flexible as a fuel compared to other renewables of variable supply. (Hydrogen is therefore similar to a battery in concept &#8211; but batteries always expire whether used or not &#8211; Ive had 2 electric vehicles now so speak from a position of experience).    </p>
<p>So hydrogen faciltates a storage solution which enables our demand to be matched with intermiitant renewable energy supply in a way which could be less damaging than batteries &#8211; if scaled up. </p>
<p>Dave I dont know if that is the case for sure because Ive not done the maths on the lifecycle impact of mining the specialist battery resources that would be required but what I&#8217;m trying to impress upon you is to not close your mind to the hydrogen solution. If you know of a study which details the CO2cost of long range batteries I&#8217;d be interested. A good independent survey may swing my thinking back towards yours. </p>
<p>Regards<br />
 Adrian</p>
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		<title>By: simon mallett</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon mallett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No mention of the work that is being pioneered by Guy Negre. Surely a wind (generated) should power an air (fueled) car!   
Okay the development of the Air Car is still ongoing with many challenges, but with no large scale use of batteries, fuel cells etc. it seems to be a far more sustainable solution! I hope its okay to include the url: http://www.mdi.lu/english/  Also, the technology is available for scalable energy storage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of the work that is being pioneered by Guy Negre. Surely a wind (generated) should power an air (fueled) car!<br />
Okay the development of the Air Car is still ongoing with many challenges, but with no large scale use of batteries, fuel cells etc. it seems to be a far more sustainable solution! I hope its okay to include the url: <a href="http://www.mdi.lu/english/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mdi.lu/english/</a>  Also, the technology is available for scalable energy storage.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaze sounds good but the pronounciation could be a bit dodgy, as i say it in my head it sounds worryingly like Khazy (as in toilet). Perhaps not the best message to be sending out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaze sounds good but the pronounciation could be a bit dodgy, as i say it in my head it sounds worryingly like Khazy (as in toilet). Perhaps not the best message to be sending out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Kaze (kAh-zey)? It&#039;s Japanese for wind.  Sounds nice off the tongue as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Kaze (kAh-zey)? It&#8217;s Japanese for wind.  Sounds nice off the tongue as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dale,

As for ourselves, we went through a list of about about 400 names (including &quot;Nemesis&quot; and &quot;Zero&quot;) before finally settling on Persu. 

NEMESIS: Mazda RX-8 special edition brand. Trademark for motorcycles is owned by Norton, BTW.

ZERO: GM had a design collaboration with architect Frank O. Gehry back in 2005. One outcome of that was the &quot;Zero Car&quot; The produced a full-scale working prototype with omni-directional driving ability. May not be trademarked.

STORM: Mazda again... This time for a rather boring pick-up truck.

Email me if I can be of any further help. 

-- Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dale,</p>
<p>As for ourselves, we went through a list of about about 400 names (including &#8220;Nemesis&#8221; and &#8220;Zero&#8221;) before finally settling on Persu. </p>
<p>NEMESIS: Mazda RX-8 special edition brand. Trademark for motorcycles is owned by Norton, BTW.</p>
<p>ZERO: GM had a design collaboration with architect Frank O. Gehry back in 2005. One outcome of that was the &#8220;Zero Car&#8221; The produced a full-scale working prototype with omni-directional driving ability. May not be trademarked.</p>
<p>STORM: Mazda again&#8230; This time for a rather boring pick-up truck.</p>
<p>Email me if I can be of any further help. </p>
<p>&#8211; Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, I&#039;m not so interested in this body work stuff. I just want to know if you guys managed to get the drive train to work. Seems you could be driving a performance mule around and fussing with cosmetics later. If I remember correctly, your engineers had decided on a dual rear motor setup with an independent belt drive to each wheel. In this video they mention that the car will not have any traction control. But you will at least have to work out the interesting control problem of having the motors serve the function of a differential when the car makes a turn.  Could you shed any light on that?  Thanks. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I&#8217;m not so interested in this body work stuff. I just want to know if you guys managed to get the drive train to work. Seems you could be driving a performance mule around and fussing with cosmetics later. If I remember correctly, your engineers had decided on a dual rear motor setup with an independent belt drive to each wheel. In this video they mention that the car will not have any traction control. But you will at least have to work out the interesting control problem of having the motors serve the function of a differential when the car makes a turn.  Could you shed any light on that?  Thanks. =)</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-2834</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, Zero has been taken on this side of the pond. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6gD6r3-cw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llwU23IO_5Y
You could do worse.

- Clark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, Zero has been taken on this side of the pond.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6gD6r3-cw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6gD6r3-cw</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llwU23IO_5Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llwU23IO_5Y</a><br />
You could do worse.</p>
<p>- Clark</p>
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		<title>By: Auto Clerks &#187; Dale Vince&#8217;s wind-powered car could be the Storm, the Zero or the Nemesis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Auto Clerks &#187; Dale Vince&#8217;s wind-powered car could be the Storm, the Zero or the Nemesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for your viewing pleasure. The front of the car is taking shape and now it needs a name. On the shortlist are: The Zero, The Storm and The Nemesis. I think the Zero Storm would be a good compromise, and I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for your viewing pleasure. The front of the car is taking shape and now it needs a name. On the shortlist are: The Zero, The Storm and The Nemesis. I think the Zero Storm would be a good compromise, and I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra Deegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandra Deegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dale... it would seem Lotus with their Tesla experience will go EV as will Porsche too... Lightening is already on the case here in the UK... but nowt real for ages yet I’d imagine. 

But as we’ve had weeks of persistent high pressure sitting atop Blighty recently... biting winter cold it is but no wind at all... oh dear?

(Fusion via Helium3 starts to look more like the next gen saviour; peak uranium means nuclear is also temporary)

The Venturi Fetish works for me name wise... but you’d need Monaco like weather to cope with the lack of roof... lol

I do hope your offering will make use of Altairnano lithium wafer power... if not ouch!

My name suggestions... as you favour the powered by wind aspect...

1.	Autan
2.	Bayamo
3.	Chamsin
4.	Dzhani
5.	Etesian 
6.	Khamsin
7.	Levante
8.	Mauka
9.	Sharki
10.	Vardar

Or if you do have to keep with that Zee theme too... Zephyr or Zephyros... Zonda’s already nabbed!

Happy New Year to you all and good luck with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dale&#8230; it would seem Lotus with their Tesla experience will go EV as will Porsche too&#8230; Lightening is already on the case here in the UK&#8230; but nowt real for ages yet I’d imagine. </p>
<p>But as we’ve had weeks of persistent high pressure sitting atop Blighty recently&#8230; biting winter cold it is but no wind at all&#8230; oh dear?</p>
<p>(Fusion via Helium3 starts to look more like the next gen saviour; peak uranium means nuclear is also temporary)</p>
<p>The Venturi Fetish works for me name wise&#8230; but you’d need Monaco like weather to cope with the lack of roof&#8230; lol</p>
<p>I do hope your offering will make use of Altairnano lithium wafer power&#8230; if not ouch!</p>
<p>My name suggestions&#8230; as you favour the powered by wind aspect&#8230;</p>
<p>1.	Autan<br />
2.	Bayamo<br />
3.	Chamsin<br />
4.	Dzhani<br />
5.	Etesian<br />
6.	Khamsin<br />
7.	Levante<br />
8.	Mauka<br />
9.	Sharki<br />
10.	Vardar</p>
<p>Or if you do have to keep with that Zee theme too&#8230; Zephyr or Zephyros&#8230; Zonda’s already nabbed!</p>
<p>Happy New Year to you all and good luck with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Lam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dale. I stand corrected!</description>
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		<title>By: dale</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-2815</link>
		<dc:creator>dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi &lt;a href=&quot;http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-2596&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeffrey&lt;/a&gt;, just to clarify on the finger print recognition - it&#039;s in and it&#039;s out - that&#039;s to say we rejected the idea of car entry via finger print but have retained it for operation (ignition and so on) - it was a relatively simple thing to do for operation, but inordinate for car entry/locking.  So we do have an element of that cool gadget.  Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <a href="http://zerocarbonista.com/2008/12/16/the-wind-car-ep4-time-for-a-name/#comment-2596" rel="nofollow">Jeffrey</a>, just to clarify on the finger print recognition &#8211; it&#8217;s in and it&#8217;s out &#8211; that&#8217;s to say we rejected the idea of car entry via finger print but have retained it for operation (ignition and so on) &#8211; it was a relatively simple thing to do for operation, but inordinate for car entry/locking.  So we do have an element of that cool gadget.  Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Lam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Lam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having seen Gale Force and Vince Lightning, how about &quot;Dale Force&quot;? :)</description>
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