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		<title>By: Afe</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-9127</link>
		<dc:creator>Afe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mojo is looking great...and im excited for the time when a revolutionary battery for electric cars comes to life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mojo is looking great&#8230;and im excited for the time when a revolutionary battery for electric cars comes to life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Thomas</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-5022</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roxi

Suggest you look at the following link for affordable electric cars. Its just a matter of time.

Dale is doing a great job.

http://detroit-electric.co.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roxi</p>
<p>Suggest you look at the following link for affordable electric cars. Its just a matter of time.</p>
<p>Dale is doing a great job.</p>
<p><a href="http://detroit-electric.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://detroit-electric.co.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Howey</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-5018</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Howey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Roxi, where&#039;s your sense of imagination? People need to understand that electric cars are not milk floats, they are serious vehicles. This project demonstrates that electric cars are something to aspire to. Yes you&#039;re right, we need a much better sustainable public transport system, we need more people on cycles etc (cf Holland). But we also need to win hearts and minds to electric vehicles. What&#039;s wrong with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Roxi, where&#8217;s your sense of imagination? People need to understand that electric cars are not milk floats, they are serious vehicles. This project demonstrates that electric cars are something to aspire to. Yes you&#8217;re right, we need a much better sustainable public transport system, we need more people on cycles etc (cf Holland). But we also need to win hearts and minds to electric vehicles. What&#8217;s wrong with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Roxi</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-5016</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we really do NOT need is wind powered sports cars. What we do need is basic sustainable transport that is affordable. Is this just a big PR gimmick by a bloke with more money than sense? Probably!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we really do NOT need is wind powered sports cars. What we do need is basic sustainable transport that is affordable. Is this just a big PR gimmick by a bloke with more money than sense? Probably!</p>
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		<title>By: Leo Tombs</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4808</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo Tombs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

I definately think &#039;Vent&#039; is the name to go for, popped straight into my head...and its still there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I definately think &#8216;Vent&#8217; is the name to go for, popped straight into my head&#8230;and its still there</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Thomas</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4756</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For progess on electric cars go to

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/electric-avenues-batterypowered-cars-take-over-the-roads-1656473.html

Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For progess on electric cars go to</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/electric-avenues-batterypowered-cars-take-over-the-roads-1656473.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/electric-avenues-batterypowered-cars-take-over-the-roads-1656473.html</a></p>
<p>Derek</p>
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		<title>By: dale</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4682</link>
		<dc:creator>dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bruno, thanks for the name and the evocative description.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bruno, thanks for the name and the evocative description.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Innecco</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4531</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Innecco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dale,

I saw an article on your car here in Brazil, and wanted to congratulate the initiative... The typical British bold way of doing things.

I have a suggestion for the name, if I may:

&quot;Terral&quot;

It is how Brazilian surfers call the wind coming from the land towards the sea, leaving a white courtin of water behind the waves (http://www.ocean-image.co.uk/waves/Offshore.jpg)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dale,</p>
<p>I saw an article on your car here in Brazil, and wanted to congratulate the initiative&#8230; The typical British bold way of doing things.</p>
<p>I have a suggestion for the name, if I may:</p>
<p>&#8220;Terral&#8221;</p>
<p>It is how Brazilian surfers call the wind coming from the land towards the sea, leaving a white courtin of water behind the waves (<a href="http://www.ocean-image.co.uk/waves/Offshore.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.ocean-image.co.uk/waves/Offshore.jpg</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4486</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just stick the your Green Union Jack on it with the letters GB - Green Britain! Point the car in the direction we need to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just stick the your Green Union Jack on it with the letters GB &#8211; Green Britain! Point the car in the direction we need to go.</p>
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		<title>By: robin</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4485</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dale, give the car a name that means something and has impact.  It&#039;s important that the car continues to drive change. R</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dale, give the car a name that means something and has impact.  It&#8217;s important that the car continues to drive change. R</p>
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		<title>By: BP</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4482</link>
		<dc:creator>BP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two more Greek-inspired suggestions:

Anemos = &quot;wind&quot;

Aeolus

Mojo brings to mind chewy sweets, though I haven&#039;t seen them for years.

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two more Greek-inspired suggestions:</p>
<p>Anemos = &#8220;wind&#8221;</p>
<p>Aeolus</p>
<p>Mojo brings to mind chewy sweets, though I haven&#8217;t seen them for years.</p>
<p>B.</p>
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		<title>By: JOSHUA</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4476</link>
		<dc:creator>JOSHUA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dale,
I love the idea of a wind turbine powered high performance electric car. If I had a wind turbine, some land and an electric car, I&#039;d be completely self sufficient, the turbine combined with the new ultrafast charge batteries (Toshiba) would provide a steady powersource to run everything and sell some back to the grid. Having said that, instead of getting into the electric car prototyping business, why not support an existing manufacturer of EV&#039;s - The Lightning GT or the Tesla Roadster, which happens to be manufactured at Lotus&#039; Elise plant, one of your customers? Or pioneer in helping Mayor Boris push forward his plans for introducing charging points all over London?

Anything to stimulate the EV industry.

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dale,<br />
I love the idea of a wind turbine powered high performance electric car. If I had a wind turbine, some land and an electric car, I&#8217;d be completely self sufficient, the turbine combined with the new ultrafast charge batteries (Toshiba) would provide a steady powersource to run everything and sell some back to the grid. Having said that, instead of getting into the electric car prototyping business, why not support an existing manufacturer of EV&#8217;s &#8211; The Lightning GT or the Tesla Roadster, which happens to be manufactured at Lotus&#8217; Elise plant, one of your customers? Or pioneer in helping Mayor Boris push forward his plans for introducing charging points all over London?</p>
<p>Anything to stimulate the EV industry.</p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Howey</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4458</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Howey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are already commercially available http://www.lifebatt.com/ -- I&#039;m not quite sure what these researchers have done differently but it definitely sounds like things are heading in the right direction!

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery

D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries are already commercially available <a href="http://www.lifebatt.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifebatt.com/</a> &#8212; I&#8217;m not quite sure what these researchers have done differently but it definitely sounds like things are heading in the right direction!</p>
<p>See also <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery</a></p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: derek thomas</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4432</link>
		<dc:creator>derek thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale

The following link also reports on the new battery.

http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090311/full/news.2009.156.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale</p>
<p>The following link also reports on the new battery.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090311/full/news.2009.156.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090311/full/news.2009.156.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: derek thomas</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4431</link>
		<dc:creator>derek thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale 
Looks like a revolutionary battery for electric cars is coming.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200903122021.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale<br />
Looks like a revolutionary battery for electric cars is coming.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200903122021.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200903122021.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Noe</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4265</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Noe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are a few more ideas:
&quot;Torque&quot;
&quot;Windrush&quot;
&quot;Turbine&quot;
&quot;Boreas&quot;  (Greek god of wind)
&quot;Notos&quot;   (Greek god of wind)
&quot;Euros&quot;   (Greek god of wind)
&quot;Zephyros&quot;(Greek god of wind)
&quot;Typhoon&quot; (Not a greek god!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a few more ideas:<br />
&#8220;Torque&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Windrush&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Turbine&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Boreas&#8221;  (Greek god of wind)<br />
&#8220;Notos&#8221;   (Greek god of wind)<br />
&#8220;Euros&#8221;   (Greek god of wind)<br />
&#8220;Zephyros&#8221;(Greek god of wind)<br />
&#8220;Typhoon&#8221; (Not a greek god!)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Casasanta</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-4179</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Casasanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Dale. I&#039;m a bit cheesed off that you put out episode 6 of 6 and the car is still not completed.  The car still looks like a high performance all electric.  WHERE&#039;S THE WIND TURBINE(S)!!!

I hope all this work is a fixed price contract. Sounds like you might need an expediter to help move things along.....

In any case, I&#039;ll get over it.  You&#039;re still a true pioneer in my eyes. 

BTW I&#039;ve got your car name: Zero-C Voltaero

Signed.
The Angry American</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Dale. I&#8217;m a bit cheesed off that you put out episode 6 of 6 and the car is still not completed.  The car still looks like a high performance all electric.  WHERE&#8217;S THE WIND TURBINE(S)!!!</p>
<p>I hope all this work is a fixed price contract. Sounds like you might need an expediter to help move things along&#8230;..</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;ll get over it.  You&#8217;re still a true pioneer in my eyes. </p>
<p>BTW I&#8217;ve got your car name: Zero-C Voltaero</p>
<p>Signed.<br />
The Angry American</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have an idea...
the car should remain nameless.

after all, what&#039;s in a name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have an idea&#8230;<br />
the car should remain nameless.</p>
<p>after all, what&#8217;s in a name?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Howey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Howey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(2) Jonathan - again - on the issue of whether there is enough lithium (and x, y, z other elements), the paper to read is &quot;Geochemical constraints on sustainable development: Can an advanced global economy achieve long-term stability?&quot; by William F. Pickard. Abstract as follows: &quot;The eighty-one stable chemical elements are examined individually with respect to (i) recent annual demand and (ii) worst case long-term
availability in a distant future in which they must be extracted from the background sources of air, seawater, and ordinary rock. It is shown that, if a conventional use scenario is envisioned, the supplies of ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, tellurium, rhenium, osmium, iridium, platinum, gold, and especially phosphorus will be questionable while the supplies of copper, zinc, molybdenum, silver, cadmium, tin, antimony, tungsten, mercury, lead, and bismuth will be inadequate. It is therefore concluded that, in the long run, only the promotion of massive recycling and substitution technologies will suffice to maintain the global industrial society now developing.&quot;

So-- Lithium may be the least of our worries!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(2) Jonathan &#8211; again &#8211; on the issue of whether there is enough lithium (and x, y, z other elements), the paper to read is &#8220;Geochemical constraints on sustainable development: Can an advanced global economy achieve long-term stability?&#8221; by William F. Pickard. Abstract as follows: &#8220;The eighty-one stable chemical elements are examined individually with respect to (i) recent annual demand and (ii) worst case long-term<br />
availability in a distant future in which they must be extracted from the background sources of air, seawater, and ordinary rock. It is shown that, if a conventional use scenario is envisioned, the supplies of ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, tellurium, rhenium, osmium, iridium, platinum, gold, and especially phosphorus will be questionable while the supplies of copper, zinc, molybdenum, silver, cadmium, tin, antimony, tungsten, mercury, lead, and bismuth will be inadequate. It is therefore concluded that, in the long run, only the promotion of massive recycling and substitution technologies will suffice to maintain the global industrial society now developing.&#8221;</p>
<p>So&#8211; Lithium may be the least of our worries!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Howey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Howey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, here is a reply on the supercaps vs batteries question, from a friend with a PhD in electrochemistry: 

&quot;I imagine that over time (decades) supercap and battery technologies will become so similar that they will be indistinguishable. Traditional batteries consumed their electrodes to discharge the energy, although modern rechargeable batteries have an electrode architecture upon which a charge carrier (lithium, hydride, etc) is deposited, two different types of electrode architecture with different chemical properties means that the charge carrier has a different chemical potential at each electrode, meaning that if the charge carrier is deposited at the higher energy electrode the battery is charged, and if it is deposited at the other lower energy electrode it is discharged. Supercapacitors have similar architectures, but instead of a charge carrier which is deposited onto the architecture they instead have an ionic liquid separated by the two architectures. When you apply a charge between the two architectures they are basically a capacitor, and can store charge which traditionally would have been limited by the insulating properties of the electrolyte (in a traditional capacitor some kind of insulating material). However, in a supercapacitor the fact that the insulator is an ionic liquid (with huge floppy ions that won&#039;t react with the electrode) means that the anions and cations are attracted to the oppositely charged architectures and cancel the effective electronic charge that has built up at the electrode. The separation of the anions and cations then causes a large chemical potential to have been built up which enables orders of magnitude more charge to be stored on the electrodes than before. Effectively you are converting the electrical charge into a chemical potential. This is known as the double layer effect, and supercaps are called double layer capacitors by electrochemists. 

Therefore, fundamentally the only difference between batteries and supercapacitors is that in a battery the charge carriers chemically react with the electrodes, whereas in a supercapacitor the charge carries are merely adsorbed on the surface of the electrode immobilised by ionic bonds. Therefore in a battery after you have deposited one layer of charge carrier you can lay another one on top giving you a &#039;relatively&#039; high energy density, but it takes some time for the chemical bonds to be formed/broken when you charge/discharge. In a supercapacitor you can only deposit one layer of charge carrier, so the energy density is &#039;relatively&#039; low, but the bonds can be broken pretty much instantaneously giving you huge power densities. I see no reason why these two technologies will not converge.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, here is a reply on the supercaps vs batteries question, from a friend with a PhD in electrochemistry: </p>
<p>&#8220;I imagine that over time (decades) supercap and battery technologies will become so similar that they will be indistinguishable. Traditional batteries consumed their electrodes to discharge the energy, although modern rechargeable batteries have an electrode architecture upon which a charge carrier (lithium, hydride, etc) is deposited, two different types of electrode architecture with different chemical properties means that the charge carrier has a different chemical potential at each electrode, meaning that if the charge carrier is deposited at the higher energy electrode the battery is charged, and if it is deposited at the other lower energy electrode it is discharged. Supercapacitors have similar architectures, but instead of a charge carrier which is deposited onto the architecture they instead have an ionic liquid separated by the two architectures. When you apply a charge between the two architectures they are basically a capacitor, and can store charge which traditionally would have been limited by the insulating properties of the electrolyte (in a traditional capacitor some kind of insulating material). However, in a supercapacitor the fact that the insulator is an ionic liquid (with huge floppy ions that won&#8217;t react with the electrode) means that the anions and cations are attracted to the oppositely charged architectures and cancel the effective electronic charge that has built up at the electrode. The separation of the anions and cations then causes a large chemical potential to have been built up which enables orders of magnitude more charge to be stored on the electrodes than before. Effectively you are converting the electrical charge into a chemical potential. This is known as the double layer effect, and supercaps are called double layer capacitors by electrochemists. </p>
<p>Therefore, fundamentally the only difference between batteries and supercapacitors is that in a battery the charge carriers chemically react with the electrodes, whereas in a supercapacitor the charge carries are merely adsorbed on the surface of the electrode immobilised by ionic bonds. Therefore in a battery after you have deposited one layer of charge carrier you can lay another one on top giving you a &#8216;relatively&#8217; high energy density, but it takes some time for the chemical bonds to be formed/broken when you charge/discharge. In a supercapacitor you can only deposit one layer of charge carrier, so the energy density is &#8216;relatively&#8217; low, but the bonds can be broken pretty much instantaneously giving you huge power densities. I see no reason why these two technologies will not converge.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sod it, I&#039;ve changed my mind. I want you to name it the Baracus. After BA who you&#039;ve got working in your garage with the welding mask on. Or you could name it Hannibal, after the guy with the hat and the grey moustache - obviously a disguise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sod it, I&#8217;ve changed my mind. I want you to name it the Baracus. After BA who you&#8217;ve got working in your garage with the welding mask on. Or you could name it Hannibal, after the guy with the hat and the grey moustache &#8211; obviously a disguise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-3963</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should just add, I meant Jeremy Clarkson! Not Jeremy who sometimes blogs here!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should just add, I meant Jeremy Clarkson! Not Jeremy who sometimes blogs here!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re never going to please everybody, so I wouldn&#039;t even try!! Having said that, personally I would like something with a bit more attitude.

I can appreciate Damons point. The hardcore &#039;living in a darkened hut&#039; greenies will not appreciate a cool or macho name. The last thing they want is another generation of wall street/canary warf yuppies stroking their testosterone fuelled, motorised manhood on wheels. But to me although Mojo sounds quite fresh, it also sounds a bit too soft and cutsey! Like the Volkswagen Lupo! Or even the Ka. Like a small bunny. Easy to belittle (Jeremy doesn&#039;t need the extra help on this!) 

I personally would like it to sound a little more epic! 

The only name I could come up with in this vein, is the Kinesis. A noun derived from the word Kinetic - physical movement, esp. involuntary random movement resulting from a particular stimulus. Which kindof fits with the wind generated power, which I still think is important to highlight.

BTW, I saw a thing on the news the other day about &#039;car clubs&#039;. Have you heard of them dale? Companies like street car? Apparently they&#039;re doing well at the moment. Could be another way to market an electric car. Check out the video:- 

http://www.streetcar.co.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re never going to please everybody, so I wouldn&#8217;t even try!! Having said that, personally I would like something with a bit more attitude.</p>
<p>I can appreciate Damons point. The hardcore &#8216;living in a darkened hut&#8217; greenies will not appreciate a cool or macho name. The last thing they want is another generation of wall street/canary warf yuppies stroking their testosterone fuelled, motorised manhood on wheels. But to me although Mojo sounds quite fresh, it also sounds a bit too soft and cutsey! Like the Volkswagen Lupo! Or even the Ka. Like a small bunny. Easy to belittle (Jeremy doesn&#8217;t need the extra help on this!) </p>
<p>I personally would like it to sound a little more epic! </p>
<p>The only name I could come up with in this vein, is the Kinesis. A noun derived from the word Kinetic &#8211; physical movement, esp. involuntary random movement resulting from a particular stimulus. Which kindof fits with the wind generated power, which I still think is important to highlight.</p>
<p>BTW, I saw a thing on the news the other day about &#8216;car clubs&#8217;. Have you heard of them dale? Companies like street car? Apparently they&#8217;re doing well at the moment. Could be another way to market an electric car. Check out the video:- </p>
<p><a href="http://www.streetcar.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.streetcar.co.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Howey</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-3933</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Howey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps also I read that the albatross is a very &#039;efficient&#039; bird... if that helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps also I read that the albatross is a very &#8216;efficient&#8217; bird&#8230; if that helps</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Howey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Howey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Names... what about simply going for the name of an animal. Probably used already elsewhere, but I think quite a nice approach - familiar, fun but very fast! eg:

Falcon (or Peregrine) - fastest bird
Dragonfly (fastest insect)
Cheetah or Antelope (fastest land animals)
Sailfish, swordfish, marlin,  (fastest swimming animals)
etc. etc.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Names&#8230; what about simply going for the name of an animal. Probably used already elsewhere, but I think quite a nice approach &#8211; familiar, fun but very fast! eg:</p>
<p>Falcon (or Peregrine) &#8211; fastest bird<br />
Dragonfly (fastest insect)<br />
Cheetah or Antelope (fastest land animals)<br />
Sailfish, swordfish, marlin,  (fastest swimming animals)<br />
etc. etc.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-3929</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name Mojo does nothing for me I&#039;m afraid.

It is dated and in my mind doesn&#039;t represent an electric sports car at all as it sounds stodgy. I concur with the Californian post, it needs to be  a word with fewer connotations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name Mojo does nothing for me I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>It is dated and in my mind doesn&#8217;t represent an electric sports car at all as it sounds stodgy. I concur with the Californian post, it needs to be  a word with fewer connotations.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Blake</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-3928</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like mojo it is simple but would like to suggest

Wind spirit

The wind spirit is Native American and is a very powerful spirit in their beliefs.

It also says something about Dale and the spirit of the project. This is in my view a wonderful project and it deserves a good name that expresses the simplicity, style and ethics behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like mojo it is simple but would like to suggest</p>
<p>Wind spirit</p>
<p>The wind spirit is Native American and is a very powerful spirit in their beliefs.</p>
<p>It also says something about Dale and the spirit of the project. This is in my view a wonderful project and it deserves a good name that expresses the simplicity, style and ethics behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: michael e. v. knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael e. v. knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dale,

What do you think of the name WindSong?

That was a song written by John Denver about the wind and all that it does.

You can listen to it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_JNGKA-Hg&amp;eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=john+denver+windsong&amp;hl=en&amp;emb=0&amp;aq=f

It would make a great theme song for your whole company.

Peace,
michael e. v. knight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dale,</p>
<p>What do you think of the name WindSong?</p>
<p>That was a song written by John Denver about the wind and all that it does.</p>
<p>You can listen to it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_JNGKA-Hg&#038;eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=john+denver+windsong&#038;hl=en&#038;emb=0&#038;aq=f" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_JNGKA-Hg&#038;eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=john+denver+windsong&#038;hl=en&#038;emb=0&#038;aq=f</a></p>
<p>It would make a great theme song for your whole company.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
michael e. v. knight</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw this for the first time, and am very interested.  I&#039;m not particularly what you would call green, but I believe that it is the nature of technology to be improved upon and replaced.  Therefore, I wish you luck and success.  I though about the name of the car a bit, and had some ideas.
All of the following are Old English words.

flyht or fleam - flight
lyft - air
maegen - power, virtue, capacity, strength
forma - first
īdel - empty
nīwian - renew

Anyhow, I thought maegen encompassed some of the ideals of your car.  Don&#039;t know exactly how its pronounced though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw this for the first time, and am very interested.  I&#8217;m not particularly what you would call green, but I believe that it is the nature of technology to be improved upon and replaced.  Therefore, I wish you luck and success.  I though about the name of the car a bit, and had some ideas.<br />
All of the following are Old English words.</p>
<p>flyht or fleam &#8211; flight<br />
lyft &#8211; air<br />
maegen &#8211; power, virtue, capacity, strength<br />
forma &#8211; first<br />
īdel &#8211; empty<br />
nīwian &#8211; renew</p>
<p>Anyhow, I thought maegen encompassed some of the ideals of your car.  Don&#8217;t know exactly how its pronounced though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Holt</title>
		<link>http://zerocarbonista.com/2009/02/17/the-wind-car-episode-6-of-6/#comment-3912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Holt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dale,

It seems we are straying onto the territory occupied by your &quot;Where will all the Lithium come from?&quot; topic. No harm in that.

If the name is still not resolved, some wind based suggestions are on these pages:

http://ggweather.com/winds.html

and also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_local_winds.

Quite a few have already been grabbed by other car manufacturers - Maserati and Volkswagen in particular. For those of us brits who remember the 1960&#039;s, Zephyr will always be a Ford.

My favourite derived from this list would be to use the name of the Mayan god of wind, &quot;Huracan&quot;. Chinook would be good but will forever be associated with accident prone helicopters.

However, I still like &quot;Vertigo&quot;.

Best regards,

Jonny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dale,</p>
<p>It seems we are straying onto the territory occupied by your &#8220;Where will all the Lithium come from?&#8221; topic. No harm in that.</p>
<p>If the name is still not resolved, some wind based suggestions are on these pages:</p>
<p><a href="http://ggweather.com/winds.html" rel="nofollow">http://ggweather.com/winds.html</a></p>
<p>and also</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_local_winds" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_local_winds</a>.</p>
<p>Quite a few have already been grabbed by other car manufacturers &#8211; Maserati and Volkswagen in particular. For those of us brits who remember the 1960&#8242;s, Zephyr will always be a Ford.</p>
<p>My favourite derived from this list would be to use the name of the Mayan god of wind, &#8220;Huracan&#8221;. Chinook would be good but will forever be associated with accident prone helicopters.</p>
<p>However, I still like &#8220;Vertigo&#8221;.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Jonny.</p>
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